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Attyla » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:50 am
you introduced the concept that you are somehow an expert. It is up to the one who makes the claim to support that claim with supporting documentation, or we are able to deduce that your claim is false which then makes any subsequent observations on your part questionable as a result of the initial claim of "expert" which is now debunked.Ivanavich wrote Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:12 am:In response to the posters above:
"posting on a discussion board does not qualify oneself to be an expert at determining who is an expert or what the definition of expert is" - Ivan, 2/26/2022
So, I don't owe anybody an explanation, and since you are all anonymous to me, I reject your expertise to judge my expertise.
I predict that Gene won't be successful as an NFL QB
and that JP has a flat chest, as shown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_rrjIODTE
Boba Fett » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:33 am
I like your list - I was actually going to respond with a 'keep an eye out for Jaren Hall', before I scrolled down and noticed his name. He's one of my favorite sleeper QBs. I can see him going first round. I'm not very high on Spencer Rattler, and right now I have Stroud over Young as the top QB. I don't know a lot about the Fresno QB, but I plan on watching him a lot more this coming year. Good stuff!Sold My Soul wrote Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:58 pm:After multiple years of loaded quarterback classes, the NFL Draft will take a step back in 2022. However, for NFL teams needing a new franchise signal-caller in the near future, the 2023 NFL Draft quarterback prospects are next-level. It’s an elite group of characters. Let’s run down the top players — in tiers — as the 2021-22 season comes to a close.
Top 2023 NFL Draft QB prospects
The projected top two picks in the 2023 NFL Draft will likely come from the quarterback position. In fact, there could even be three quarterbacks taken in the first three picks if a certain someone lives up to the hype. Here are the top 2023 NFL Draft QBs, broken out into specific tiers.
Tier 1: The top two
Two of the top three players on the 2023 NFL Draft big board should be quarterbacks. Not because of how QB-needy the sport has become, but because of their overall abilities. Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud should battle it out for the Heisman Trophy (again), a National Championship, and eventually the No. 1 overall pick if all goes to plan.
Bryce Young, Alabama
There isn’t much more to say about Young that hasn’t already been stated. So, if this is repetitive, I apologize. His ability to stand tall in the face of pressure is uncanny. Young’s arm is next-level, and he trusts it with precision and poise.
What separates Young from the rest of the class is his ability to find and elevate his already incredibly talented group of players.
C.J. Stroud, Ohio State
With every bit of arm talent as his predecessors at Ohio State, Stroud is second fiddle to no Buckeye. He handled himself brilliantly in Year 1 as a starter in Columbus, rallying from an early-season loss. Stroud found the pace of the game early on after the battle with Oregon and rallied off multiple contests with at least 5 touchdown passes.
Stroud had some inconsistency with his accuracy early in the season (missing high), but some of his anticipatory throws after OSU’s Week 4 bye were the best in college football. He squeezes the ball into tight windows with ease. Stroud is a tremendous athlete with great pocket maneuverability to boot.
He’ll continually battle it out with Young for the top quarterback in college football. They’ll also battle it out for the Heisman Trophy in 2022 and ultimately the right to have their name called first in the 2023 NFL Draft.
Tier 2: Early first-round discussion
Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
Seeking atonement, Spencer Rattler has jettisoned Norman, Oklahoma, for Columbia, South Carolina. He’s traded a defensive-minded head coach with the Sooners for the offensive-minded Shane Beamer and the Gamecocks. Considering the work Beamer did this past season with the cast of characters he had at quarterback, Rattler’s presence had to be welcomed with open arms.
Rattler has every bit of an elite arm and athleticism. However, his inability to find his receivers in Oklahoma’s wide-open offense in 2021 got him benched. He struggled to find receivers by reading his progressions. Rattler locked on to targets and forced throws far too often. He looked lost at times with the Sooners this past season.
After entering the year as the potential No. 1 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, Rattler has a lot left to prove next fall. If he does prove that he has improved his intangibles, he vaults right back into the top quarterback discussion and likely gets a seat in New York City for the Heisman Trophy presentation.
Jake Haener, Fresno State
No top quarterback discussion will be complete without Jake Haener. The fierce signal-caller out west has an incredible arm and terrific moxie in the pocket. Haener can make all the throws and beautifully layers passes over defenders against all coverages. He uses his great arm strength to fit throws into tight windows and throw his receivers open at every level.
Haener may trust his arm a bit too much at times and try to squeeze throws into windows that aren’t there, but in time, he should understand coverages more and more. After throwing for over 6,000 yards the past two seasons, he returns as one of the most productive quarterbacks in the country.
Showcasing growth in understanding situational football and when to pull the trigger will be helpful for his NFL prognosis. Still, Haener’s arm is a rare blend of power and torque, and he layers just enough smoothness to his throws. He’s special.
Jaren Hall, BYU
In no way am I comparing Jaren Hall to Zach Wilson. But there is no world that I cannot see the similarities. They’re different quarterbacks, playing in the same system, with similar success. In fact, BYU offensive coordinator Aaron Roderick said that Hall is the quarterback who “gave BYU the most similar offense” to the one that Wilson ran in 2020.
With a zippy arm and even better hips, Hall’s baseball background has gone a long way toward him delivering fastballs on Saturdays. Hall is a tremendous athlete and started to understand how to navigate the pocket with ease as the season went on for the Cougars. Finding his receivers with accurate passes is no issue, but proving he can keep safeties at bay with his eyes and hips will go a long way at him vaulting into the upper echelon of 2023 NFL Draft quarterback prospects.
If Hall does that, dare I say he’s a first-round pick? Okay, fine, maybe he is a bit more like Wilson than I thought.
TIER 3 AND 4 HERE:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/earl ... cj-stroud/
WolfRaider » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:24 am
If Carr gets the contract he's rumoured to get we won't get a QB unless it's lateBoJacksonRules » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:49 am
Zappe in the 5th if he’s still on the boardRainman56 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:48 am
Pickett sux ballz=Steelers drafted a BUST imo.Atlasffa wrote Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:18 am:He's worth a work out and an interview.
https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1 ... 0847934471
GoodTimeCharlie » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:46 pm
Based on the contract he ended up with, I’d say it guarantees we draft a QB, and Carr’s play this year will determine whether it’s an early-rounder or not.WolfRaider wrote Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:24 am:If Carr gets the contract he's rumoured to get we won't get a QB unless it's late
vtraider » Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:14 am
He's good. But so is Georgia's qbAttyla wrote Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:27 am:after yesterday, trade up to number one and get the Alabama stud
Arsenal Raider » Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:51 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz7PEbut2mIHesterLayes » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:14 pm
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Arsenal Raider » Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:30 pm
Hall, Hooker, Levis.Atlasffa » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:33 pm
Below are the top QBs in the 2023 class per draft guru Dan Brugler. This is from an article posted November 2, 2022, titled "2023 NFL Draft midseason rankings: The top 50 prospects in college football." (Link to article for subscribers:One of his biggest knocks on Bryce Young is his size--not just the height, but also a smaller frame than short QBs like Wilson and Murray. He believes the 2024 class will have better QB prospects than 2023, but didn't name names.3. Bryce Young, QB, Alabama*
“If Bryce Young were bigger, he would be the clear top quarterback” is something we’ll hear a lot over the next six months. While he is an outlier due his size, Young (listed at a generous 6-foot-0, 194 pounds) is well above average in several critical factors at the position. He processes very quickly and has uncanny vision to understand everything going on around him and deliver accurate throws.
Not everyone will be able to overlook his diminutive size, but I’ll bet on his special instincts.
10. C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State*
Quarterbacks in today’s NFL can’t just be passers. They also have to be creators. When everything is on time and stays structured, C.J. Stroud has impressive pacing and accuracy to carve up defenses (his fourth-quarter toss to Emeka Egbuka last Saturday was gorgeous).
However, my concerns with Stroud entering the season have been highlighted the last two weeks against Iowa and Penn State. The stats have looked nice, but he has been inconsistent negotiating pressure and doesn’t look nearly as comfortable outside of structure.
23. Will Levis, QB, Kentucky
One of the more complicated players in the 2023 draft class, Kentucky quarterback Will Levis is the prototype in terms of his physical tools: size, mobility, arm strength. He is durable with a high pain tolerance and has the intelligence to handle an NFL playbook.
But the on-field results have been too inconsistent. How much upside does he offer? The answer to that question is all over the map.
44. Tanner McKee, QB, Stanford*
A tough evaluation because of a lackluster supporting cast, Tanner McKee’s touch, vision and accuracy remain among the best in this class. While he isn’t a rush threat and won’t create many second-chance plays, he is efficient in his drops/slides or when moving the pocket on sprintouts. On some plays, he looks like Matt Ryan; on others, like Mike Glennon. The truth likely falls somewhere in between those two quarterbacks.
46. Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee
In 19 starts since he took over at Tennessee last season, Hendon Hooker has accounted for 59 total touchdowns compared to just three interceptions. He is the clear Heisman front-runner but also a complicated NFL evaluation because he’s playing in a quarterback-friendly offense with half-field reads and a deep wide receiver depth chart. There is some Geno Smith to his game, which has become a positive considering the way Smith has played in 2022.